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Post by FanOfMasinRPG on Jun 8, 2016 8:11:10 GMT
Ive been a huge fan of Masin for a while before it was even translated, while I love that the english version is getting updates and new content, I am disappointed that there is now event only characters having people get special titles or special in game effects is fine but when you lock out content as major as a character behind event only contests it is unfair to the rest of the player base that either starts playing the game late, did not know about the events, or simply due to having things and responsibilities outside of gaming such as a job hurts the game more then helps and might even make people not want to play. I myself feel a little more dissuaded from playing Masin Rpg new version due to this instead of the older versions or trying to get the Korean version and play that because of this, I hope you will consider this decision and make it available to all people not just a few people who won a event, even if you make it harder in the case of Aurelia's drop rate of fragment this just feels like you are cheating out to large of the player base for this game from a decent junk of content
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Post by Nagalash on Jun 8, 2016 12:08:19 GMT
I don't think that is a fair judgment, this isn't the only game to have event-specific rewards. There are so many popular games out there that do it all the time, it is supposed to entice people to play
these events to get those rewards. It isn't unfair because those who put in the effort into the game then get rewarded. If everyone was suddenly given all those rewards for free after so many people put
in the time and effort to get them through farming, then it would take a lot away from those who put in the effort. If you are unable to participate in these events because of work-issues or any other
issues then all you can really say is "Bad luck". This is supposed to be a reward for those who put in the effort, not a punishment for those who can't. Try to see things in a more positive light.
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Post by placekk on Jun 8, 2016 14:05:54 GMT
My opinion is kinda biased since I didn't participate in the events, but I believe those event rewards should work like early access for winners, "late access" for the rest. Winners arent going to keep playing masin forever and the characters will stay in the game unless removed.
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Post by skweefe on Jun 8, 2016 14:11:42 GMT
lies i'am gonna play forever
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Post by Nagalash on Jun 8, 2016 14:15:32 GMT
Lol skweefe, I'll be there with you. TILL THE END OF TIME!!!
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Post by Nagalash on Jun 8, 2016 14:28:05 GMT
My opinion is kinda biased since I didn't participate in the events, but I believe those event rewards should work like early access for winners, "late access" for the rest. Winners arent going to keep playing masin forever and the characters will stay in the game unless removed. You do have a point placekk, some really good events do eventually end up like this and there should be parts of events that get released to others later on (prob skweefe's Aurelia hero). Though there is always, and should always, be at least one part of the event that never gets released to other players later on (usually the best part of the event, in this case prob Aizen hero), so that the individuals who put all that effort into the game when it came out still have some kind of trophy that they can show off. Besides Aizen hero is really OP. If everyone was able to get him then that would be what 90% off people would play, reducing the game's over-all quality.
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Post by Call Out on Jun 8, 2016 22:09:02 GMT
My opinion is kinda biased since I didn't participate in the events, but I believe those event rewards should work like early access for winners, "late access" for the rest. Winners arent going to keep playing masin forever and the characters will stay in the game unless removed. You do have a point placekk, some really good events do eventually end up like this and there should be parts of events that get released to others later on (prob skweefe's Aurelia hero). Though there is always, and should always, be at least one part of the event that never gets released to other players later on (usually the best part of the event, in this case prob Aizen hero), so that the individuals who put all that effort into the game when it came out still have some kind of trophy that they can show off. Besides Aizen hero is really OP. If everyone was able to get him then that would be what 90% off people would play, reducing the game's over-all quality. Dude your biased as fuck(the guy who has it) and Solomon hero can always be nerfed later on.
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Post by Nagalash on Jun 9, 2016 4:55:30 GMT
You do have a point placekk, some really good events do eventually end up like this and there should be parts of events that get released to others later on (prob skweefe's Aurelia hero). Though there is always, and should always, be at least one part of the event that never gets released to other players later on (usually the best part of the event, in this case prob Aizen hero), so that the individuals who put all that effort into the game when it came out still have some kind of trophy that they can show off. Besides Aizen hero is really OP. If everyone was able to get him then that would be what 90% of people would play, reducing the game's over-all quality. Dude your biased as fuck(the guy who has it) and Solomon hero can always be nerfed later on. Well, that was rude. Besides even if I didn't have him, while I would be sad about it, my point wouldn't change. While he could be nerfed for the vast majority to gain him, it doesn't seem right to me considering that you are already getting two other heroes. So I don't know why all the fuss when you've gotten so much already. My point is basically that those who put in the time and effort to do something should be rewarded for it. Complaining that you should get something for free when others had to put in much dedication and many hours is unreasonable, and frankly childish.
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Post by kandayu on Jun 9, 2016 5:42:07 GMT
I don't think that is a fair judgment, this isn't the only game to have event-specific rewards. There are so many popular games out there that do it all the time, it is supposed to entice people to play these events to get those rewards. It isn't unfair because those who put in the effort into the game then get rewarded. If everyone was suddenly given all those rewards for free after so many people put in the time and effort to get them through farming, then it would take a lot away from those who put in the effort. If you are unable to participate in these events because of work-issues or any other issues then all you can really say is "Bad luck". This is supposed to be a reward for those who put in the effort, not a punishment for those who can't. Try to see things in a more positive light. Original poster forgot I had account 1. Okey first off do games to event specific rewards yes, are they ever as large as a character No pure and simple 2. Is it supposed to entice people to play yes and it does that but it doesn't change the fact that some people do not have the time enough, especially after a code wipe to get end game for the rewards so this does in fact hurt players who do not have time 3. This is in a light of reality, people have jobs and lives and devote the time to reach end game in especially a grind heavy rpg such as Masin to receive rewards 1. Its still locked out content that should not be something again as large as a character should not be permanently off limits to a player 2. Again time and effort is fine but some people cant do it all at once so to lock someone out permanently simply because they have responsibilities outside of gaming is unfair to a majority of the player base 3. Never once did I say I wanted anything for free I have no problem earning or doing what is necessary to get the heroes I just want the chance to do so outside of a specific time frame to earn the character, do not assume I want anything for free all you do is make yourself look like an ass 4. see above as I want nothing for free, it is not childish to want not to be locked out of content simply because I have responsibilities I am fine with it being temporarily unavailable for a time but to be permanently locked out of a playable character is unreasonable
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Post by Nagalash on Jun 9, 2016 7:35:20 GMT
kandayu . I do not appreciate being called an Ass. I would appreciate it if you could refrain from using offensive terms and language. Your comments make the assumptions that those of us who did win this event do not have "responsibilities outside of gaming" and I find that presumptuous and slightly offensive. I personally had, and still have Assessments and Exams to complete for university. With this knowledge in mind I was able to make a schedule that could accommodate this. I was never focusing you specifically about wanting things for free either. Some earlier comments have sounded like they wished for free rewards. Overall none of us have the right to decide what is to be done about this issue. If HvsH chooses to keep the hero restricted then that is his call and I hope that you can respect that. You've already gotten two other heroes anyway. Wrath and Aurelia. If however he does decide to release it to others later, then good for you and congratulations. I will respect this decision even if I would not 100% agree with it.
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Post by kandayu on Jun 9, 2016 8:04:46 GMT
kandayu . I do not appreciate being called an Ass. I would appreciate it if you could refrain from using offensive terms and language. Your comments make the assumptions that those of us who did win this event do not have "responsibilities outside of gaming" and I find that presumptuous and slightly offensive. I personally had, and still have Assessments and Exams to complete for university. With this knowledge in mind I was able to make a schedule that could accommodate this. I was never focusing you specifically about wanting things for free either. Some earlier comments have sounded like they wished for free rewards. Overall none of us have the right to decide what is to be done about this issue. If HvsH chooses to keep the hero restricted then that is his call and I hope that you can respect that. You've already gotten two other heroes anyway. Wrath and Aurelia. If however he does decide to release it to others later, then good for you and congratulations. I will respect this decision even if I would not 100% agree with it. I apologize for my language and my assumption. To my knowledge Aurelia is still a event only character to the people who posted the first 15 replays of her quest, however I might be mistaken about that due to the Aurelia related event going on at the moment. but I am currently working 35+ hours a week and making time in my schedule to max out a character in Masin not to mention I found out about it late which is my fault to be able to have a chance for this event is a bit extreme.
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Post by Nagalash on Jun 9, 2016 8:32:15 GMT
kandayu I appreciate your apology and if I offended you in any way with my previous comments it was not my intention and I too apologize. I do believe there are going to be multiple Aurelia events so I don't think there should be any issues with you getting her. I can understand the frustration that must come with not having enough time but I'm afraid to say that currently it is just bad luck. One of the people I was playing with missed out on the Aizen hero because of bad luck too. He used over 300 Solomon's Gifts yet still did not get the hero. To put that into perspective, we ran over 30 Solomon runs where he took all 10 gifts which each have a 1% chance and still nothing. Yet 3 of our competitors got it their very first try. These things just happen and if HvsH never releases Aizen to the public (I doubt he will) then there isn't really anything either of us could do. Anyway good luck with your current hero, and if you ever need help and I'm on, I'll be sure to lend a hand. :-)
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Post by brownin on Jun 30, 2016 16:17:43 GMT
Just allow people to unlock a less powerful version of the character at a later date. Maybe even change the look of it slightly, to help distinguish between the original and the communal version.
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Post by Reuven on Jul 1, 2016 15:12:02 GMT
Cause hvsh sucks and cant understand that time events are unfair and bs
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Post by HvsH on Jul 2, 2016 23:50:28 GMT
that was like one event, which i reopened again but made it harder for like a few weeks so you just talking out your ass
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